I’m on it right now.
Have you ever heard of nootropics? They sound like some kind of weird fat-losing drug you see infomercials for when you wake up at 2am after accidentally falling asleep in front of the TV.
They’re not, though. Nootropics are “brain-boosting” supplements, essentially drugs, which can help you with memory loss, focus, anxiety, depression, mania, and a whole slew of other things.
Recently, I tried phenibut at the suggestion of my friend Caleb, a personal trainer and wellness specialist at Honest Weight Food Co-Op (my local co-op which I love and speak highly of all the damn time) in Albany, NY.
Caleb is one of the few people I trust when it comes to mind-altering supplements, especially when his girlfriend, Steph, also approves. Steph and I are around the same height, weight, and tolerance, so when Caleb told me that she liked phenibut, I figured it was worth a try.
Phenibut is a commonly prescribed supplement in eastern European countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and a few others. It’s used to treat depression, anxiety, and a slew of other mental illnesses. In these countries, you can get a prescription for Phenibut from a doctor. In the United States and other countries, it’s considered a supplement and you do not need a prescription.
Considering mental health is still not taken super seriously in the United States, prescription drugs come with a bunch of side effects, and it’s expensive to see a mental health professional, it may be worth it to experiment with herbs and supplements such as St. John’s Wort, folic acid, and Phenibut.
Caleb told me to take Phenibut when you wake up on an empty stomach and with some kind of caffeine since it can make you sleepy. I took it with yerba maté tea (I can’t drink coffee) and coconut oil for better digestion before my English classes at 5AM last week.
My classes went fine and although my body felt a little fuzzy, it wasn’t super noticeable. After classes, I headed to my second job: freelance filmmaking. I grabbed my camera and headed into the city to shoot some footage for a local restaurant’s social media account. There, I was feeling light and airy. It was farmer’s market day, so it was pretty difficult to find parking and I ended up in a handicapped spot. I was already running late, so I grabbed my equipment and figured I would drop it off before finding a real spot.
I met the chef and “director,” both of whom were super chill and down with me running out again to find parking. Usually finding parking is the worst, but it wasn’t that bad on nootropics! I circled around, not a worry at all about my car or my equipment sitting with foreign hands. We found parking shortly afterwards and walked back to shoot.
Although I was pretty nervous about working with new people, I didn’t have that fluttery heart feeling you can get from anxiety. Any depressed feelings from the day before were gone. Caleb told me my peak would come around 1PM.
Sure enough, as 1PM rolled around, we were running around the city getting random footage and giggling like little kids. Mind you, I was the only one on nootropics. At this point, I started feeling super happy and very fuzzy (like, tingly). The supplement did not make me lose control of my body, like alcohol does, and it did not make me question myself, like weed does. I felt like I was completely myself, but just in an awesome mood.
As the day went on, I did not replenish with any caffeine. Caleb strongly recommended caffeine, but I didn’t listen and ended up close to 0% shortly after I ended up in Brooklyn, to meet up with a friend of mine. It was Cinco De Mayo and they were having a party to celebrate, but I was pretty wiped. Granted, I did wake up at 5AM to teach English, shot a “commercial,” and then drove 3 hours to Brooklyn for a party I was attending.
It was a lot and I ended up getting to bed around 5AM. I was smushed into a bed with 3 other people: 2 of whom I knew from college and the other was a complete stranger. When everyone was up eating breakfast, I was still asleep until noon. It was nuts. However, I was not nearly as annoyed as I could have/would have/should have been on such little sleep. Sure, it was an intense day, but it was fine!
From my two times taking Phenibut so far, I have been in at least one argument for each, with my manic family members. Usually, I am fairly empathetic so even when I recognize that someone is manic, I immediately take it personally and it wrecks my mood when they call me names, yell at me, and try to mess up my day. On Phenibut, I could clearly differentiate between which arguments/attacks were ridiculous/from mania and which had any real merit. This made it easier for me to accept and move on with my day rather than ruminate over depressing feelings.
What’s interesting about Phenibut is that is mimics Gamma-Aminobutyric acid (GABA) which is also known as a gaba-agonist. This means that the supplement will bind to your GABA receptors (found in your brain, control mood and focus, etc.) making you less stressed, less depressed, etc.
Considering I was neurotoxic from fluoroquinolone antibiotics because of a fluorine ion binding to my GABA receptors, making me extraordinarily anxious, depressed, giving me full-body paresthesia (numbness), and panic attacks, I am interested in how Phenibut could help/hurt neurotoxicity.
Considering Phenibut is completely natural and not a toxin, it is not considered to have any negative side effects unless you overdose on it. This means you should only take about 1-4 pills twice a week. The Phenibut has about a 35 hour half-life. You should only take a second dose after 3 days have passed. I’m not sure how GABA detoxification works, but I would be interested to see if maybe Phenibut may be stronger than fluorine, with the ability to flush it out and replace it. Perhaps Phenibut could help floxies with neurotoxicity by binding with remaining GABA receptors while taking selenium for fluorine binding and eliminating. However, it is difficult to detox anything in the brain considering the blood-brain barrier. The risks also may outweigh the benefits. Perhaps taking Phenibut while floxed could make the symptoms worse.
Regardless, I would love to see a study on nootropics and floxies.
In addition, I did not find Phenibut to be at all addictive, but I must note that I do not have an addictive personality. One dose a week has been fine for me so far and I might even do one dose every other week. I definitely want to continue using it. Remember that you can technically become addicted to anything, so please use anything with caution. When I was 11, I was addicted to cheetos, but I blame MSG for that (which I know now that I’m allergic to)…
You can try Phenibut with 150 pills for $20 on LiftMode. Use this link to get 10% off your first order of $10 or more! Go to Calming > Phenibut. We’re using the “Phenibut HCL 300mp capsules (150 ct) – 99% pure).” Feel free to email me, use Ask Aya, or comment with any questions/concerns you may have and I will try my best to answer them!
Would you like to see Caleb and I do more reviews of nootropics? We are doing a collaborative series trying out different kinds of nootropics and explaining how they affect our moods (my mental illness), his workouts, relationships, etc.
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An Open Letter to Those Who Can’t Handle Me at My Worst | The Barefoot Aya
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19 thoughts on “My Nootropics Experiment: Phenibut”
I do not have the papers on hand at the moment- but there are a number of amino acids…aaaargh, NAC and L-Tyrosine that tend to help with issues such as you mentioned, particularly in people detoxing. Inasmuch as phenibut for that purpose- while I have not seen papers on that, per se: I have seen quite a bit of anecdotes to suggest you’re correct in your assumption. ?
Victoria, I totally used NAC when I was neurotoxic… I think ALA and Mag-Threonate was also for neurotoxicity? Not sure… I took about 26 pills twice a day… ? S/o to the ketogenic diet though. Thanks for the info!
Well, in fairness- I cannot speak to a few of those things I have seen for neurotox due to genetic mutations making whatever I experiment with personally revolve around my own sensitivities HOWEVER, yes, those are two I’ve seen mentioned. My current stacks are 3 times daily but…not quite at 26, but a lot. I have dropped moda- but only because my new stacks involve fertility concerns and I hadn’t seen enough safety data in terms of fertility. Though I do not use the keto diet- I have DEFINITELY seen some amazing things in terms of it being quite beneficial to those ends, as well. 🙂 Our detox stuff…opiates and my partner tangled with the wroooong gabergic- so, his stacks are probably closer to yours than mine would be in respect to all of that but his night time does involve sensoril ashwagandha and suntheanine. Thus far- and again, anecdotal: this seems to be a pretty great thing for him.
Sorry I literally just saw this! WP sometimes buries my comments before I can approve them. Awesome – I would LOVE to hear what you think about literally all of these supplements (maybe a collab is in order for the future?). Caleb works at our local co-op (where I used to work/where we met) and he’s going to see if he can get ashwagandha there. There are sooooo many and they are all so different. I’m surprised it’s taken me this long, really. Yo are you on Instagram?
In any case- absolutely it would be amazing to see you write more about nootropics. ? I’ve noted before, this subject is a total sausage fest so any time I see other women write about them- I am stoked.
Hahaha yessss. I would be collaborating with another man, BUT I’ll try to push more of my lady-ness in there! Haha ladies unite!
I also saw skulls on your main page! Heeeeyo! Weirdo collector, too? AWESOME. In this, though I am being less garl power and more “Dood, our hormones make this a bit different but it’s rad, sort of?” Lol
My friend Lisa is hella into how hormones change everything in our body. I wish I knew more – I need an all-encompassing book or something to get my head around all of it. I just know I am extremely sensitive to hormonal changes in my body. I am not a skull collector, but my brother is one!!!!!
He also hunts deer and turkey for me. 🙂
Oooooooooo. I used to get the most gorgeous tail fans from hunters who’d come into a gas station I worked overnights at. 😀
Entire tail fans? That’s awesome!
Awesome! Well written. Can’t wait for our next experiment.
This was great and convinced me to take some phenibut tomorrow. Also, my name is in your blog so I think that makes me famous now.
Yeah you are famous now, obvi. How did you guys JUST see this now?